More Expelled Teasers

Poor PZ....

...he's really hit the point of obsessing about the Expelled flick. His antics are becoming comical beyond belief:

Some of you know that the producers of Expelled had a conference call this afternoon…a carefully controlled, closed environment in which they would spout their nonsense and only take questions by email. I listened to it for a while, and yeah, it was the usual run-around. However, I dialed in a few minutes early, and got to listen to a tiresome five minutes of Leslie and Paul chatting away, during which time they mentioned the secret code (DUNH DUNH DUNNNNH!) for the two way calls. I know. Sloppy, unprofessional, and stupid, but that's the way they work.

So … I redialed. (DUNH DUNH DUNNNNH!)

Then I listened along quietly until I could take no more.

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So I interrupted. I said, in essence, hang on -- you guys are spinning out a lot of lies here, you should be called on it. I gave a quick gloss on it, and said that, for instance, anti-semitism has a long history in Germany that preceded Darwin, and that they ought to look up the word "pogrom". There was some mad rustling and flustering about on the other side of the phone some complaints, etc., and then one of them asked me to do the honorable thing and hang up…so I said yes, I would do the honorable thing and hang up while they continued the dishonorable thing and continued to lie.

Just as predicted, Darwinists are absolutely frothing at the mouth and apparently very close to losing their minds over this flick. Also as predicted, they are on a witch hunt to find *anything* they possibly can to discredit the flick in some way.

It's *highly* amusing to observe.

It's interesting that they haven't said much about the content of the flick except to assure us that "we ain't Nazis" and it's so very "boooooring"...lol. Obviously, not everyone thinks so. They seem determined to try find something about the production of the film that they may be able to sue over for one reason or the other. I guess if they can't refute the truth being relayed in the movie, they'll try to find a way to take them to court for sharing it.

For those of you new to this debate, PZ is the professor at the university of MN who is highly volatile about ID and blogs continuously about atheism and his hatred for religious thought. Earlier, I posted a youtube clip from his Expelled interview, but I can no longer get access to it.

Hmmmm...very interesting.

UPDATE:
Denyse O'Leary was in the phone conference and writes about PZ's interruption here.

Live blogging of the incident

The Academic Freedom Act

Update from Florida: From what I understand, the Academic Freedom Act has been approved by the senate committee...now it moves on to the rest of the senate.

The bill introduced in Florida’s Senate reads in part:

An act relating to teaching chemical and biological evolution; providing a short title; providing legislative intent; providing public school teachers with a right to present scientific information relevant to the full range of views on biological and chemical origins; prohibiting a teacher from being discriminated against for presenting such information; prohibiting students from being penalized for subscribing to a particular position on evolution; clarifying that the act does not require any change in state curriculum standards or promote any religious position; providing an effective date.

This is great news!! Congratulations Florida! Kudos to Ben Stein and the Discovery Institute Fellows who went to Florida in support of the bill and also provided a free viewing of "Expelled" for the Florida legislators.

PZ & Dawkins provide publicity for Expelled

Apparently, Matthew Nisbet and Chris Mooney get it.

PZ and Dawkins have really blown it this time with their little plan to show up at an Expelled screening. PZ has made such a ruckus that he has ultimately provided even more controversy for the film, and that is sure to lure more people into the theatres. Chris and Matthew are keen enough to have thought this through. PZ, on the other hand, is still clueless to how he has played right into the hands of the Expelled production.

PZ tells Matthew:

"Fuck you very much, Matt. You know where you can stick your advice."

Hmmmm....this is all very interesting, but last night I was thinking that at times I wish I had never gotten involved in this debate. I think perhaps that first time I posted at the Kansas Citizens for Science forum may have been a mistake. Before that time, I had *NO* clue how much sheer hatred there was for religious thought...much of which comes from the scientific elite. As I started venturing out and reading additional blogs, forums, science articles, etc., the shock at what I found steadily increased. Many of these people have a deep seeded hatred for religious thought. I hate knowing that.

It has really been an eye opener, and the more I get involved, the more I realize what an awful state that science, religion, and the culture war is in. I try to tell myself that these bloggers and forum members are only a small part of the scientific community as a whole, yet from the things they write, it would seem that they have a lot of pull in getting what they want due to the fact that the majority of scientists are atheist, agnostic and strong naturalists like themselves. Our universities seem to cater to this secular/naturalist/agnostic view as well, so religion is viewed as a detriment within the walls of academia.

I think PZ, Dawkins, Genie, and many others are ultimately going to do severe damage to science by rejecting ID. PZ & Dawkins especially have such a *large* atheist following that they believe they can do no wrong. They seem to feel that everyone supports whatever they do, so they feel this latest little episode will lead the general public to view IDists as liars and frauds.

I think they are missing a very, very important point here...one that is going to really hurt them in the long run. Most of the US is comprised of people who believe that there is an intelligent source ultimately responsible for the creation of the universe. Most people, even though many may not attend church every Sunday, adhere to a particular faith belief. In the bigger picture, PZ's minions are a very small part of the population, and the only reason he and his ilk have been able to reign supreme over how science is going to be taught is because most people in the US really have no clue about the issues in this debate either because they aren't really interested or they have been misinformed by the scientific community and the media in regard to what ID really entails.

When the public eventually becomes more informed in regard to what ID encompasses, I'm afraid that the PZ's of the world are going to be in for a world of hurt. ID is not religion, and people will come to realize that. They are also not going to be impressed with his sheer hatred for religion and his belief that eradicating it from the public square is a commendable goal. Listening to him and Dawkins in that short clip I linked to earlier almost made me physically ill, and believe me, it will have that same affect on most Americans.

Personally, I think PZ and Dawkins are so full of themselves due to their fawning followers, that they actually believe Americans in general won't be that affected by their words in this film. I think they are going to be very surprised. I know many atheists and agnostics personally, and they are *nothing* like PZ Myers and most of the atheists I run across on line who blog about ID/evo. I truly believe that even they would find PZ's words in that clip as repulsive as I do.

My atheist and agnostic friends don't mind religion at all, they just basically aren't interested in bothering with it. I know several who have even gone to church on rare occasion without any ill will, and a friend of mine sends his daughter to a Christian pre-school. They see the need for religion even if they find that they have a difficult time adhering to the faith themselves.

Even though, as I said, there are times when I wish I didn't know what some of these professors, teachers, and scientists think when it comes to their views about ID, religion, and their dogmatic views about science, I'm glad I've stuck it out and learned the things I have. My hope is that Expelled might bring more people to the Internet so that they understand the type of people we're up against.

Nisbet gives some very good advise. Someone really should take PZ's computer away and somehow convince him to shut up. That would be my advice, but knowing PZ, he's going to keep on blabbering until he says or does something *really*, *really* stupid.

I guess I shouldn't complain because it would certainly be of benefit to ID if he keeps talking. But, even though I know in my heart that it is highly improbable, I still wish there were a way that Darwinists and IDists could work together in order to inform our students about every aspect of evolution as well as the controversial issues of the theory. I also believe that ID has a place in the science classroom...it is far and away a more thought provoking theory than the concept of "primordial soup". I wish that Darwinists could come to understand this, and realize that this is not an attempt to teach "religion" in the science classroom.

Okay....I'll stop babbling, but I needed to get some of this off my chest, and I heartily agree with Mooney and Nisbet that PZ & Dawkins are not only giving Expelled a boost at the box office, but they are a huge detriment to science in general.

Darwinists *sure* to boost "Expelled" ticket sales!

Oh, the poor souls are sooooo worked up about the upcoming flick "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed" that the King of Atheists, Richard Dawkins, and his Grand Poo bah, PZ Myers, crashed the private screening last night at the Mall of American in MN along with a little group of family and friends. Both gentlemen are featured in the film, so their curiosity must have gotten the best of them.

Tee hee...the fallout from that little ruse is being read at different sources *all over the Internet*. I really can't think of better publicity for the movie than a bunch of raging atheists crashing an event like this.

Evidently PZ was given the boot before he even got to see the documentary, but his family and his buddy Dawkins, along with some other MN atheists, got in and stirred up a big pot of craziness during the Q&A after the showing. Word has it that Dawkins pretty much made himself look foolish, and from what I hear, the crowd had a good chuckle at his expense. Goodness sakes...maybe the whole undercover operation wasn't such a hot idea after all?

PZ's groupies seem to find it quite humorous that he was "expelled" from the screening, yet Dawkins was allowed in. But, honestly, I can't think of a better way to get publicity and interest in this movie than to allow more Darwinists into these screenings, and it was probably a stroke of genius to give PZ the boot (if that's how it really went down) because it only adds to the drama.

Man, what I would have paid to see the whole saga go down...and, that's not very Christian like at all. But, I guess after you've been sent to PZ Myers "dungeon" and been called every name in the book by his groupies at PZ's blog, Pharyngula, it's a bit difficult not to enjoy a good giggle over the whole episode. Yes, I kept a running tab of the names I was called because it was so horrifically over the top. Bear in mind that all that name calling was piled on me in *one* day.

I find it quite interesting that the group of atheists with Dawkins were so upset at the fact that he was refuted by producer Mark Mathis during the Q&A, yet I'd be willing to bet the farm that Mark never once used the type of language that PZ and his groupies direct at those who question their "science".

Well, we shall see how this latest little saga evolves for the next few days. Should be interesting and quite fruitful for ticket sales!

Oh, and if you're interested in how PZ & Dawkins view those of us who are interested in this film....take a gander at the following quotes.

PZ's opinion:

"It's (EXPELLED) going to appeal strongly to the religious, the paranoid, the conspiracy theorists, and the ignorant -- which means they're going to draw in about 90% of the American market."

Isn't it amazing that the US can even function seeing as 90% of us are teetering right there on the edge of ignorance and insanity....

Not to be out done in the arrogance department, Dawkins seems to be berating the film that will "only persuade those who are "already dishonest, ignorant fools":

At the Austin lecture, RD waxed harshly upon Expelled, saying that if the online trailer were any indication, no one would be persuaded by it who wasn't already a dishonest, ignorant fool. Now that he's actually seen it...wow, I can't wait to hear how he really feels!

LOL....gotta love it.

Dawkins admitted in the film that there could very well be an intelligent source responsible for our existence. That admission seems to, in a sense, make him an advocate for ID, no?

No doubt, the fact that he made that admission in an interview that will have such a huge audience has the poor guy worked up beyond belief.

Ben Stein Smart Bombs Darwinian Bunker

A review of Expelled written by Jack Cashill can be found here.

Wow...these reviews are very promising.

Expelled: Joseph Farah's Review

I simply can't wait to get to a theatre April 18th.

Here's another review of the documentary:

Stein doesn't just ask the obvious questions of the scientists who are dogmatic about evolution. He probes. He digs. He pierces. He penetrates. He is relentless.

The responses are amazing – even if you think you know what to expect.

It turns out some of the most hardened, doctrinaire anti-design zealots in the scientific establishment – people like Richard Dawkins, author of "The God Delusion" and, coincidentally, the de facto leader of the worldwide atheist movement – aren't really opposed to the notion of design at all. They just can't accept God as the designer.

You will hear some of the world's most celebrated evolutionists admit design is possible – just not by the hand of God.

They will attribute the possibility of design to visitors from other planets and even to crystals. The two things they cannot tolerate are consideration of God's role and any of their colleagues deviating from their own ideas about origins.

It's not so much the architects of evolution are opposed to religion. It's that they have formed their own religion – absent the God of Christianity and Judaism.

As Ben Stein explains it: "Big Science in this area of biology has lost its way. Scientists are supposed to be allowed to follow the evidence wherever it may lead, no matter what the implications are. Freedom of inquiry has been greatly compromised, and this is not only anti-American, it's anti-science. It's anti-the whole concept of learning."

You need to be on the lookout for "Expelled." It will get a healthy rollout in theaters beginning April 18. But you don't want to miss it. This is a movie you will want to see more than once. This is a movie for the whole family. This is a movie to tell your friends about.

It won't end the debate about evolution. But it may give us a chance to revive the debate.

Again, DON'T miss this flick. If you're a blogger, get the word out. People need to be aware of what is going on in academia today in regard to the suppression of academic freedom.

Expelled: A Review

An interesting review of Expelled can be found at Brett McCracken's blog.

Expelled on Coast to Coast

Film producer of Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, Mark Mathis, was recently featured on Coast to Coast with George Noory. You can listen to the program at this link. There's a $6.95 monthly fee to listen to the show, but it's well worth it. I'll be linking to a few other Coast to Coast programs soon.

Go listen to it now!!

Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed

Be sure to see this one...in theatres April 18.

Here are some fun clips of Ben Stein on Jimmy Kimmel Live and Bill O'Reilly.